How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself

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If Harley Davidson is the Titanic, the pandemic might just be that one big iceberg. Worse still, it had a hole in the hull and sputtering engines before all this even began. Damn. Is HD done for? [Details below]
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Danny Harbin
Danny Harbin Prieš 9 val
I always thought I would want another harley davidson and given the grief I experienced with the first one I sincerely hope I always will.
Sue Rarick
Sue Rarick Prieš 12 val
The basic problem is Millennials and Gen Z are sissies that need mommy to kiss their boo boos. They get PTSD over a hang nail.
Quill Maurer
Quill Maurer Prieš 14 val
6:23 "One of their best-selling models is a giant mobility scooter." There's not enough burn wards and aloe vera in the world to treat that burn.
Mellie Mend It
Mellie Mend It Prieš 17 val
It's the only motorcycle company I know of that has to use engine mounts to counter the vibrations of the engine going through the frame. Everyone else makes balanced engines which bolt straight onto the frame without any issues! Really old tech, really heavy, uneconomical, expensive to buy, expensive to run and expensive to maintain. One of my customers took his Harley in for a check over (not a service, no parts fitted, a check over) walked away £380 lighter (approx $535 US) He's now my customer :0)
Michael Steven
Michael Steven Prieš dieną
Peter Fonda died an anti-American..Good riddance, Pete..
James B. Armstrong
James B. Armstrong Prieš dieną
Time for Harley-Davidson to ride off into the sunset........
John Koster
John Koster Prieš dieną
Nucklehead vs panhead: oh no this is the end of HD , panhead vs shovel: oh no this is the en of HD , shovel vs evo: oh no this is the end of HD, evo vs twincam: oh no this is the end of HD, twincan vs M8: oh no this is the end of HD, stil going strong en staying strong , no worries
Sergey Kopylov
Sergey Kopylov Prieš 2 dienas
Chinese businessmen will buy Harley Davidson when it dies.
JDM Prieš 2 dienas
Noboby want's a old boomer bike it will dye soon!
James Radcliffe
James Radcliffe Prieš 2 dienas
stock prices and market cap. in general have had no relationship to the real value of a company for many years. all that printed money has to go somewhere, might as well inflate equities.
N75911 Prieš 2 dienas
I'd love to see a similar piece on Indian Motorcycles. Their bikes are absolutely fantastic. And that's coming from a Supersport dude.
Carl Skaggs
Carl Skaggs Prieš 2 dienas H.D. just came out with the E/Glide Revival, a bike reminiscent of the 1969 E/Glide............ for 29K. Buyers are lining up and paying 5K over that price just to get their hands on one. They must be doing something right.
wwb Prieš 2 dienas
A fool and his money are soon parted. Old proverb.
Don Strack
Don Strack Prieš 3 dienas
Harley the wight of a car and the power of a moped.😂
Stitch Jones
Stitch Jones Prieš 4 dienas
Owned a harley fat bob 2009, kept it for 8 years then dropped it after coming round a blind corner to a Winnebago doing about 10. God bless highway bars, saved my leg being squashed. No mechanical issues, good cruiser for long rides. Can't say anything bad about it tbh. I'd buy a BMW if I was gonna buy another bike though.
Elsa Ranny
Elsa Ranny Prieš 4 dienas
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stufoo Prieš 4 dienas
Just bought an 05 sportster and I love it. Gonna make it quieter though. Last owner installed a very loud exhaust that I don’t care for. For me, it’s Americana. I’ve wanted one since I was a kid. And now, as a big kid, I have one.
Robert Alan
Robert Alan Prieš 4 dienas
The Boomers all went through a I'm gonna dress like a tough guy and ride a Harley stage, but that's all over with now.
Carl Skaggs
Carl Skaggs Prieš 4 dienas
Whisker Biscuit
Whisker Biscuit Prieš 5 dienų
It's because the bikes are way overpriced. A motorcycle shouldn't cost the same as a car or truck.
Armienta Clips
Armienta Clips Prieš 5 dienų
Never owned a Harley and never want too. Will happily look at getting a Honda rebel 1100 tho.😁
The Dude
The Dude Prieš dieną
Check out Yamaha Roadstar’s ... I have a 2005 Roadstar Midnight Silverado ... looks every bit as nice as a Harley, and mimics the HD “sound” well
Carl Skaggs
Carl Skaggs Prieš 4 dienas
That bike's ugly.
LuLu, Sweet Thing
LuLu, Sweet Thing Prieš 5 dienų
Yeah you hit the nail on the head. As I said in another one of your videos that I actively avoided buying a Harley Davidson because it's more of a lifestyle choice. I ended up going next door to buy an Indian scout 60
William Guy Thilgen Jr.
William Guy Thilgen Jr. Prieš 6 dienų
I lost interest in ever buying a Harley when I found out they lied about being made in America. The entire bike was manufactured in other countries and simply assembled in the U.S.A.
Frede Nord
Frede Nord Prieš 6 dienų
The old ones were really good looking. But they are sooo noisy.... not as good to drive like a modern BMW bike etc
misfit Prieš 6 dienų
The woke gen would rather ride an electric scooter or riot and steal one 😉
BubbaOG93 Prieš 6 dienų
3.1k dislikes. Brainless liberals? Hm.
horseman1968 Prieš 6 dienų
I own a smaller Harley, a 1200 sportster...but I believe their demise began a long time ago ...back when Ducatti developed the desmonic valve train and kept up with all of the other bike manufacturers on the track. All Harley has managed to do track-wise is go fast on alcohol-fueled 1/4 mile bikes. I also own an '07 GSXR-1000 which goes fast on regular and on corners. LOL
Divergent Droid
Divergent Droid Prieš 6 dienų
50, 125 and 150cc Scooters are popular as heck yet Harley hasn't made a scooter since the Topper (165cc) from 1961 to 1965. Harley could have made such scooters non motorcycling people would have bought. They could be competing with the China market and crushing it in the US but nope..
Allan Patterson
Allan Patterson Prieš 6 dienų
They survived the FLH days When they started being made in South Korea they lost their American bike label. I got turned off HD bikes long ago by the local dealer and his useless service staff.
Corz Illa
Corz Illa Prieš 6 dienų
The thing with us Harley riders we dont care if you like them or not we do... and there's still plenty of us out there who will support the cause. Ride what you want, and enjoy it thats what its about.
Demitri Yannitsos
Demitri Yannitsos Prieš 6 dienų
idk man most millennials just think Harleys are old ppl bikes and that's being said completely un bias
Fred Odonnell
Fred Odonnell Prieš 6 dienų
Those that don't ride harleys. Don't really know what rideings all about
wwb Prieš 6 dienų
Nope... those who have ridden ONLY Harleys don't know what riding is all about. Been riding since 1962, and have well over 500,000 miles on two wheels. Have owned Yamaha, BSA, Triumph, Honda, and Kawasaki motorcycles. Never owned a Harley, but have ridden a few hundred miles on several different H-Ds.... you can keep them. They are nothing but image, and are a terrible motorcycle.
Fred Odonnell
Fred Odonnell Prieš 6 dienų
If u can't afford one. Lower your choice to a honda rebel. U and snoopy can ride together
Fred Odonnell
Fred Odonnell Prieš 6 dienų
All my friends and me ride a harley. Most everyone that matters to ride harleys they are everywhere here in FLA. If they are dying can't prove it by me. I love mine. 76yrs old. Next new bike will be a HARLEY TRIKE. A couple yrs down the rode. My 09 heritage has 140 thousand on it. Gotta go now headed out for all day ride!!!!!
Robert Peebles
Robert Peebles Prieš 6 dienų
As a harley owner I really dont like modern Harley owners
Manuel Greiling
Manuel Greiling Prieš 7 dienų
It is both. True and sad. Selling a brand means not to sell bikes either. And you have to sell bikes when your opportunity is to survive. And changing the modells every three years, specially the Sportster, has not much continuty. I'm deeply depressed about that story.
Squirrel M3
Squirrel M3 Prieš 7 dienų
I always laugh when I hear old boys talking about their harleys, ask everyone in the shop about their bikes and we all respond with a chuckle “We like good bikes. I have a Honda/Kawasaki/etc etc” and they just blankly stare back at us speechless
BARRY COLE Prieš 7 dienų
Been there, seen it and done it. Wrung the hell out of it and have the scares to prove it. Like everything, there is a lifecycle to consider. Why should HD be any different? If you missed your chance, too bad. Some of us get to live and die as legend, while others are forgotten before they are gone. HD was never intended to go on and on. It was born, lived, fought and died, just the same as the rest of us from that generation.
budbuddybuddest Prieš 7 dienų
One of the 2+ motorcycle training schools here (Virginia) is owned and taught by local police officers. It is completely independent of the police department, on off hours, on private property on their fleet of 250cc. After the many-day course you go by yourself to DMV for test. They also have advanced courses. HD dealer refers people to a different school, don't know why.
Soggy Kid
Soggy Kid Prieš 7 dienų
I still don’t understand how any Harley bike can pass local noise laws? Or do they just get away with it because it’s mostly old white men who ride them?
PPP LLL Prieš 8 dienų
“ a toilet paper prepper with diarrhea.” Awesome quote.
kman 4443
kman 4443 Prieš 8 dienų
Overpriced, underpowered, and arrogance thinking they were the shit and nobody would beat them. "Pride cometh before the fall". I learned to ride on a Harley 25 years ago and rode nothing but until I purchased a Yamaha Roya Star tour deluxe cruiser, best bike I ever purchased, affordable, reliable, and reasonably powerful should've done it sooner.
WONG SHEAN SHEANG Moe Prieš 8 dienų
Nope absolutely not, they are not dying
Elmer Kilred
Elmer Kilred Prieš 8 dienų
The Triumph Thunderbird 6T was Marlon Brando's motorcycle in "The Wild One."
rusticscruffy Prieš 8 dienų
Wiriya Intarasaeng
Wiriya Intarasaeng Prieš 8 dienų
How y'all feel if Harley actually died and a Chinese company buy it...
Chris P
Chris P Prieš 9 dienų
H-D went "woke" right after the V Rod came out and they started catering to the yuppies. They shit on their cult-like following who have never forgotten and they have gone downhill ever since.
Motomoves Prieš 9 dienų
this video was so good that my WIFE ACTUALLY started to watch this with me and thought i was watching a show on netflix :/
Kradle Prieš 9 dienų
They need to make cheaper bikes that still pack a punch I'd love an 883 but no way I'd spend that much $ on a bike as a millennial
Rob Paige
Rob Paige Prieš 9 dienų
Great story telling but I think Polaris has a lot to do with the decline of Harley Davidson. I stopped buying Harleys and switched to Victory motorcycles. Now own two, a Kingpin and a Crossroads. The engines seem to last forever, but if ever want to buy a new bike it will be an Indian. I just think they are better built with better engine design than Harley, and just as big, loud, and American made.
John Griffiths
John Griffiths Prieš 9 dienų
Where is this filmed? Kamloops?
Kurtis Kaskowski
Kurtis Kaskowski Prieš 9 dienų
Tess Tickle
Tess Tickle Prieš 9 dienų
Harley is a fashion brand now, not a motorcycle company. And that brand is for the fat, stupid, uneducated and abrasive.
Two Occy Straps
Two Occy Straps Prieš 10 dienų
One could only hope they are dying, the shit the foist on boneheads, absolute antiquated garbage.They should stick to clothing , shiny shit and handlebar tassels
Duck Prieš 10 dienų
Interesting that this iconic "rebel" brand needed government protection to survive
Carl Skaggs
Carl Skaggs Prieš 10 dienų
Here's an idea....for those of you who think HD is dead or dying, take a trip to your nearest HD dealer and you'll think differently. They're booming! Selling bikes like crazy. I know, but don't know why, you all wish FortNine's video was true, but it's just not, sorry. HD is doing fine.
Mark Winchester
Mark Winchester Prieš 10 dienų
Their doing exactly as Erik Buell said "Playing games w/ money to appear profitable to shareholders" when their simply not. No one agree that axeing BUELL was a good idea.
Adhasky M.A
Adhasky M.A Prieš 10 dienų
HD should just close down or sell it to China for a revamp.
Steinkopf Prieš 11 dienų
Never considered HD. Looking for Yamaha or Honda.
Soul Flyer
Soul Flyer Prieš 11 dienų
During the 50's thru the 70's, Hollywood made motorcycling part of the American culture and HD was there to capitalize on it. But even then, when you learned to ride at a young age, you probably learned on something like a Honda z50 or CT70 minibike, and that builds nostalgia. Back in the day we had, The Wild One, Easy Rider, On Any Sunday, Electra Glide in Blue, Wild Angles and the TV series Then Came Bronson, Motorcycling in America will never be what it once was.
Icutmetal Prieš 11 dienų
Not a fan, but not a hater. I think that Harley Davidson is getting a taste of what the Big 3 experienced starting in the late 60’s; misreading their future customer base and telling them what they want instead of asking & listening.
Bryan Staten
Bryan Staten Prieš 11 dienų
The trick to buying a new Harley for your price is don't be in a hurry, have the financing or cash setup ahead of time and show up on the last day of the month and play hardball. Don't tell me that won't work, I've done it. Took me 3 visits on the last day of the month, first 2 times I told them I had the money at the bank, which I did have it setup on my home equity. The 3rd trip I took the amount I was willing to pay with me. They played hardball and so did I , showed the sales manager the cash, he said he could not sell for that, I put the money in my pocket and headed for the door, gotmy hand on the door and pushed it open.....hold on hold on you got me.... I turned and looked him in the eye and said bo, I had you 3 months ago! New 09 Electra glide priced at $22,900..... Out the door at $17,500!!!
Gurtej Singh
Gurtej Singh Prieš 11 dienų
So they all suicided
Backwoods Charlie
Backwoods Charlie Prieš 11 dienų
I may not agree with Harley-Davidsons marketing style but I've been riding one since 1969 I have no interest in Jack crap
FPScanada Prieš 12 dienų
i remember my brother taking me into the harley dealership when i was looking for my first bike. I was amazed at how expensive everything was compared to japanese bikes. The whole juju in the store felt douchey as well.. Anyways i bought a used gsxr600 and that was way cooler for highschool than a boomer harley
FPScanada Prieš 12 dienų
this is such premium youtube content. definitely fit for cable tv
Johno Queensland
Johno Queensland Prieš 12 dienų
They ran out of Lone Wolfs.
Achint Dhiman
Achint Dhiman Prieš 12 dienų
I drive a Honda cbr250r that my father bought me 4 years ago when I was 15 and now I'm thinking of buying a Triumph Bobber because I like the old bobber styling of those bikes with newer engine and everything I had my eye on the 48 but HD is just not the thing for me anymore because of the old hippies in those old commercials and the stigma of driving a HD I'm a college student so I don't want my teachers to think of me in a bad way 😂 and I only drive my bike in summers because the cold weather in my country is really bad
Achint Dhiman
Achint Dhiman Prieš 11 dienų
@Carl Skaggs Oh I'm talking about the stereotypes I don't really hate them btw
Carl Skaggs
Carl Skaggs Prieš 11 dienų
I've been RIDING a motorcycle for over 50 years, but I've never DRIVEN one! How's that work? LOL
mr white
mr white Prieš 12 dienų
Been riding 45 years, rode everything with 2 wheels. Harleys are crap.
John Jaco
John Jaco Prieš 12 dienų
They make motorcycles????? I thought they were just a clothing boutique?
Least Trending
Least Trending Prieš 12 dienų
New dh vid now
Reginald French
Reginald French Prieš 12 dienų
As a child growing up in the 1970s, it was the general perception that only gangs and dope-heads rode Harleys. The AMF days were just awful. This video, however, was great.
graycloud057 Prieš 12 dienų
Nowadays HD makes bikes for rich posers. They purchase an IMAGE not a quality bike.
Carl Skaggs
Carl Skaggs Prieš 12 dienų
Brad M. ...the Harley XR 750 has won more AMA championships than any other motorcycle in history!,Evel%20Knievel%20at%20the%20handlebars.
Dedalus11973 Prieš 13 dienų
uncannily resemblance to Dick Dastardly
Vaishakh Narayanan Nair
Vaishakh Narayanan Nair Prieš 13 dienų
Let it die..
Brad M.
Brad M. Prieš 13 dienų
I grew up and became aware of Harley Davidson when Harley was owned by AMF - at the time, they had an unrivaled reputation as the least reliable, most underpowered and least stylish motorcycles. Google the 1981 XR-750, it constantly makes the top 10 worst HD motorcycles. At a time when Honda was producing THE most reliable and economical 750 for half the price, it's easy to see why Harley has generally been in decline over the years. I owned a Honda CB750 when I was in college and it was fun to ride and more importantly, indestructible. That last trait was most important as I did not have extra money or the facilities to properly maintain it. I put in oil, lubed the chain and a new set of tires. That's it.
Al Loomis
Al Loomis Prieš 13 dienų
not suicide, just evolution. japan offered high performance and cheap, so did italy. backed harley into a life-style corner of fat old men. nobody's fault. perhaps harley might have done better by opening a factory in italy and building 'italian' bikes there, and importing to usa as wanted. maybe, and too late.
Edwin Padilla
Edwin Padilla Prieš 13 dienų
Bought my HD in 2004, didn’t care about the name brand, but when I saw my vrod i had to have it. the bike was never accepted by the enthusiasts due to a liquid cool engine, quiet, yet it is wicked fast that none of them could keep up, but over and over I kept hearing “that’s not a Harley” which was quite annoying that resulted in not really caring about the life style they promoted, nor bought their clothing, nor participated in any of their rallies. The vrod was aimed at the 20-40 crowd just like me, but It was the hard core enthusiast that killed the demand or interest thus sales going to Kawasaki, Ducati, Honda, Indian, etc... the vrod was discontinued about 5 years ago, still best bike Harley build.
Carl Skaggs
Carl Skaggs Prieš 13 dienų
Perhaps the title to this video should be " How FortNine Is Wrong Again!"
Mikael Gaspar
Mikael Gaspar Prieš 13 dienų
Price, built quality and performance!
Gamevet Prieš 14 dienų
Thompson River! Is that in Montana or Canada?
Elias Ali
Elias Ali Prieš 14 dienų
After killing the v rod.. I can't wait for HD to get out of business
Al Stewart
Al Stewart Prieš 14 dienų
When I think Harley I think of an overweight, middle aged man wearing skin tight leather who thinks he is cool as shit, on a loud, overly complicated, needlessly expensive bike. Of course millennials dont want to ride Harley
David Barraco
David Barraco Prieš 14 dienų
The Harley-Davidson Pig wouldn't even make a good barbecue bygone table scraps
Alexander Prieš 14 dienų
Alot of people hate harley davidson here. I'm mainly an offroad rider but I'd jump on a harley any day of the week. Its fun to own several different styles of bikes
Justin Dyches
Justin Dyches Prieš 14 dienų
ghost of reagan 2024
Elizabeth M
Elizabeth M Prieš 14 dienų
Harleys require a lot of maintenance, have crazy repairs even with meticulous maintenance, and the techs at the dealerships don’t know how to fix them at $90+ per hour.
Elizabeth M
Elizabeth M Prieš 12 dienų
@Carl Skaggs my husband and I have meticulously taken care of our bikes. I think you may be luckier than the typical Harley owner. I’ve had to do a lot more work than just oil changes in the 23 years I’ve been riding. All 5 of my bikes have been new or nearly new when I bought them. Maybe you should shut your mouth until you can respect other people’s experiences.
Carl Skaggs
Carl Skaggs Prieš 14 dienų
Oil and filter changes are a "lot of maintenance"? Like I posted earlier. I've owned eleven Harleys....none ever leaked oil....none ever left me stranded....none required nothing more than an oil change...the ONLY thing I had to fix on all the Harleys I owned was one speedometer cable on my '85 Electra Glide that I replaced myself for less than $20. Come back when you know what you're talking about.
Gil Garcia
Gil Garcia Prieš 14 dienų
You put a lot of work into these videos. I have watched most of them and enjoy them all. I have always wanted a Harley but, price was always the stop. I have owned Honda's, Yamaha's and Suzuki's. Today I own a Pig (KLR650) due to so many close calls in the city. This bike gets me out into the back country, anything that happens there is my fault. Tired of leaving my hands in a strangers control. I biggest problem is the lack of drivers out there that don't care about motorcycles around them. Although, a lot of riders out there that give us a bad name. 42 years of riding and I will never stop as long as I can get on one. God Bless your passion of motorcycles and keep making the videos. Thank You.
EFC 209
EFC 209 Prieš 15 dienų
Trump “dont get cute with us” 😂
ali sardo
ali sardo Prieš 15 dienų
Probably the name Harley Davidson is not as fashionable as before;may be the company should get a new name and keep a good line of competitiveness in the market😎
Aneurysm Prieš 15 dienų
The Gibson of motorcycles
Scott Redeen
Scott Redeen Prieš 15 dienų
I didn't know HD was dying. I'll need to immediately tell my HD dealer of this bad news and to discontinue selling 700 bikes per year because people don't want them, even in the winter months. HD, the most copied, imitated bike in the world. I'm glad the others know whom to follow.
Keith Lietzau
Keith Lietzau Prieš 14 dienų
Ok boomer
BadTrip Prieš 15 dienų
It's like with everything else, there are Asians that are doing it better.
Kyle Kampa
Kyle Kampa Prieš 15 dienų
I own a Harley and I think that the attitude of riders has become more about “look at me! I’m a badass!” Rather than just riding. One of my neighbors just got one and I have only ever seen him go on 2 or 3 minute rides, most of which is spent in the neighborhood, obnoxiously revving the whole way
DB Sunshine
DB Sunshine Prieš 15 dienų
A good friend just bought a loaded Road Glide for $30k, not a CVO, just a loaded Road glide. For that money I have the following bikes, all in great condition and ridden: 13' Victory Vision with 80k 07' Gold Wing with 135k 02' Harley Road King Classic with 35k 07' Honda Shadow VLX 600 with 15k 06' Ninja 250 with 4.5k 89' TW200 with 5k 87' Honda Hurricane 600 with 26k If I tried to sell them all I would still be five odd grand short of affording his bike.
DB Sunshine
DB Sunshine Prieš 15 dienų
@Carl Skaggs Worth about two grand more then the other tourers, but I've put three grand in stupid Harley TC88 repairs in two years (Cam chain tensioner, side door transmission repair), while the others are rock solid reliable, so...
Carl Skaggs
Carl Skaggs Prieš 15 dienų
" If I tried to sell them all I would still be five odd grand short of affording his bike. " That's because that '02 Road King Classic is the only bike you own that's worth anything! :)
t44e6 Prieš 16 dienų
One can only hope.
Borge Prieš 16 dienų
Great video. Spot on. I've been riding bikes since 1960. I'm now 76 and still ride every single day. I started on a Honda but over time I had 6, yes six Harleys. All brand new. Road King, Fat Boy, Heritage Softail, Sportster 1200, Lowrider 104, and a Nightrod Special. 6 years ago I went back to Honda. Why? I got sick of heavy, old fashioned, inefficient, expensive, unreliable crap. But most of all I got sick of the hypocritical flag waving tough guy show off culture that Harley promotes. Arrogant service managers. Take it or leave it salesmen. And "made in America" bullshit while sucking on the government teat and making most parts and then whole bikes overseas. I for one will be happy to see them go - as they surely will. I now have over 60,000 trouble free miles on my 2015 Honda and will never consider Harley again. ForNine - great analysis.
wwb Prieš 14 dienų
I'm your kindred spirit.... 74 years old, started riding in 1962 on a Yamaha (with a non-riding stretch for college, army, wife, kids, house....). Finally got back into it in 1976 on a Honda 750 - another Honda and 3 Kawasakis since then. Never owned a Harley, but have ridden a few hundred miles on several different ones. For the folks that like them, that's fine with me, but they just aren't my type of motorcycle.
bryan3550 Prieš 16 dienų
I just love Industrial Archaeology... But why would anyone want to ride a museum piece on the road? 🤔
ILLYA Prieš 16 dienų
now it is too expensive even for usa people ?
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