Vintage CB360T vs Modern CB300R - Motorcycle Evolution Test

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It's grandpa vs grandson this time. They might have 45 years between them, but they’re essentially the same motorcycle aimed at the same buyer. The real question is - have motorcycles gotten better or worse?
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Shobin p
Shobin p Prieš 9 val
This is what Royal Enfield Is doing precisely , selling modern motorcycle at legacy pricing.
Andrew Mack
Andrew Mack Prieš 9 val
The sales success of the Royal Enfield 650 should be making the other manufacturers realise that many of us want a basic motorbike and don't give a toss about a digital dash, keyless ignition or Bluetooth connect-ability.
Jackson Carter
Jackson Carter Prieš 17 val
dont even hardly know how to ride a motorcycle but i cannot stop watching because these are so well made
John Howell
John Howell Prieš 17 val
I love your work!! Great video. In terms of cheap bikes though, I looked at a Suzuki GSX 125 as my LAMS bike to get my licence on. Here in New Zealand, that about NZ$3500 + on road costs, so is it that there ARE cheaper bikes now to deliver what the old CB360T was for? A starter bike?
Andrew Mack
Andrew Mack Prieš 9 val
In most countries around that time the 360 wasn't considered a starter bike. A big bike was generally a 500-750cc and starter bikes were up to 250, but there where plenty of 125, 150, 175, 185 and 200cc alternatives. Here in the UK you needed a full licence to ride anything bigger than 250 then... now it's 125 like most of Europe i believe.
Moglie Moglie
Moglie Moglie Prieš dieną
I agree on the final outcome
zubaer hossain
zubaer hossain Prieš dieną
3:47 song?
Paul Albares
Paul Albares Prieš 2 dienas
Having bought my first bike, a used 1961 Honda 50 Sport in 1963, I can attest to the allure of the old bikes that are like a time machine with one's memory. They were heavier, did not perform like today's bikes, and were not technological marvels. What they were was an inexpensive purchase for any kid who had some means of income, such as I did with my paper route. They were cheap to maintain and operate, .25 cents for a gallon of gasoline and what caught the eye of any young male, they were gorgeous to look at. The early Japanese bikes and Brit bikes were visually very appealing, something I can't say about most of what if offered today. What is with the trend from most models to do away with the rear fender? It is as if the designer stopped for lunch and someone picked up the prints before he was finished and sent them to production. The new bikes look unbalanced without a proper rear fender and not some plastic wheel hugger. I love the looks of the new Kawasaki W800, the new Bonnevilles, Suzuki TU250, or any new bike that rides (and stops) like a technologically advanced machine of today but looks like the bikes of my youth! I would love to see BMW resurrect the late 80's R100RT, same frame, same looks, ABS and fuel injection and a price that is appealing and affordable to the average working man. Keep up the good work with your videos, I love them.
ImmortalInflames
ImmortalInflames Prieš 2 dienas
I'm not in the slightest a bike person, I have no hate at all for them, just not my cup of tea - though that said I've considered learning simply as another "life skill" to have. That aside, as one from the other side of the fence (car person), I look at both bikes and would choose the old one with out hesitation, it has nothing to do with quality or older is better - it's that visually, it looks far less intimidating! - I say again that based on looks alone and the actual experience could prove very different. In any case, thought I'd share my 2 bob. I'm 34 and daily a V8 station wagon.
Shackleman Warts
Shackleman Warts Prieš 2 dienas
I alway love grass tracker
moses 1997
moses 1997 Prieš 3 dienas
You have to blame government regulations for the increase in price
FlyBaby
FlyBaby Prieš 3 dienas
While they might be far less reliable and need constant maintenance the old British twins has such personality that modern bikes lack. To hell with tft screens. I like dials on my dash. Carbs always worked, no EFI pumps to fail.
hippyhay1
hippyhay1 Prieš 3 dienas
I'm an older Canadian rider (I bought my first street bike in 1976). I learned motorcycle mechanics by tinkering on my Suzuki GT380 in my parent's driveway. I'm picking up a new Royal Enfield Continental GT 650 in the chrome finish (Mr. Clean) this spring. It's my 10th street bike. I paid the equivalent of a mid-size dirt bike for it. I've been waiting for someone to build a street bike like the GT for years. I'm so tired of the overly-complex "insect-look" of most of today's motorcycles, with their captured seats, hideous lines, multi-angled bodywork, and boring colour choices. The simple, classic look of the GT 650 is spectacular, IMHO. Well done RE. ....and a person with basic mechanical knowledge can adjust the valve clearances in an hour, using common hand tools.
Gautham xo
Gautham xo Prieš 4 dienas
Production is top notch!! Always love with FORTNINE
Dennis Burton
Dennis Burton Prieš 4 dienas
Interesting observation,mate.I had a cb360 back in the 70's,great bike.
Klention Mali
Klention Mali Prieš 4 dienas
Here She Comes Like The Rays Of The Sun She Shine
Andrew Burke
Andrew Burke Prieš 5 dienų
I was around when the CB360 came out and it was the uncoolest bike on the market. Now it looks kinda neat.
randomusernumber1
randomusernumber1 Prieš 5 dienų
i cant help but notice that you did not mention emisiions and fuel economy . Sure no bike rider cares about either of those but i am sure Honda does since it cant sell bikes that do not meet the criteria , which are getting stricter wit hevery year .Sure ol mate CB 360T seems better built with its chrome and all the other points you ponted out but lets be hones here . Chrome is extremely bad for the envioroment , the process is terribly poluting , Plastic is not much better but at least it can be recicled forever .Newer bikes ARE better ,we just have to accept the sacrifice we need to make in order to keep the planet a human friendly envioroment ( and we are not doing that too well even with all the drawbacks thus far )
Frederick Couch
Frederick Couch Prieš 5 dienų
Even though I get your point, I'd still get the newer bike...but then again I'm not a novice rider. I do sometimes muddle over the Royal Enfield Interceptor, but needing an all-around multi purpose bike with offroad capabilities, and only getting to afford 1 bike, I'd opt for a KLR650(or its equivalent). Great video as usual......
Vern Shein
Vern Shein Prieš 6 dienų
And the CB360T had a kick starter. Nothing is cooler than kick starting your bike.
Eggswung 69
Eggswung 69 Prieš 7 dienų
My Grandma had a 1975 baby blue CB360
Jon Leon Guerrero
Jon Leon Guerrero Prieš 7 dienų
This video is so damn well done. Excellent job.
frosty A B
frosty A B Prieš 7 dienų
grandpa should have thrown in few extra bucks and got the CB500T
Paulo
Paulo Prieš 7 dienų
Absolute class👏 best on YouTUbe by a country mile 😉
Cayo Julio
Cayo Julio Prieš 7 dienų
I wish there was a bike with the tech of today and the dedication and atention to detail of the past.
Warner Bauer
Warner Bauer Prieš 7 dienų
All Honda has to do now is make a new 350, give it old CB styling and a silly name, and maybe start selling it in a market with a high population...
Karunakar Pradhan
Karunakar Pradhan Prieš 8 dienų
Motorcycling was never about the speed, it was always for pleasure of ride, you want to ride and go places, enticement, thrill of going anywhere... Is it about the destination sometimes I wonder.
igor de wit
igor de wit Prieš 8 dienų
The look of that new one doesnt even come close to the 70s oldskool supercool. Whatever people may say...thats just the simple truth!
XSevenSonata
XSevenSonata Prieš 8 dienų
This dude reminds me of Rob Thomas. No, the other one.
Rimo Sourav
Rimo Sourav Prieš 9 dienų
There is a cb350 h'ness in indian market, you can check that out ☺️ looks like the old one
racinchef
racinchef Prieš 11 dienų
Enjoyed your video immensely! My first bike was the CB360 same color minus the disc brake. Very informative.
J.Berejik
J.Berejik Prieš 11 dienų
As a CB630 owner I'll say that, after watching this video, I realized that I must have this song in my playlist. Whenever it comes up, I start grinning, lean forward just a bit, twist, and smile. Growing up is just a trap. ;-)
yako0000
yako0000 Prieš 11 dienų
i used to ride a 1976 Honda CB350 that my dad had kind of abandoned. i didn't have a licence and drove the absolute hell out of it, putting 1000 miles on in one summer. i dropped it twice on wet grass, burning a beautiful banana shaped scar on each of my calves. you've inspired me to buy it back and restore it. maybe i'll even get my licence.
whalesong999
whalesong999 Prieš 12 dienų
Watched this for the second time today, great presentation. I was a mechanic and service manager, smack in the middle of the '70s, medium weight Japanese twins were a lot of bread and butter for our business. We had the Suzuki GS400 and the Kawasaki KZ400. Both models went on to refinements that made them better each year. Honda dealers weren't nearby but we knew they too had a good product. Would enjoy any of those machines today as my own. Edit: How many here recall the tool kits of the early larger Hondas ('62 - '66)? They included tire levers and touch up paint, I think perhaps patch kits too for some time. I still have some Honda tool kit items from that era, mostly pliers which are as good as any commercial ones I ever used.
Ryan Sung
Ryan Sung Prieš 12 dienų
And meanwhile in India, Honda Lunched CB350 almost look the same with CB360T just with less power and cylinder LoL.
News 603
News 603 Prieš 12 dienų
Fantastic video! My first bike was a 1966 Honda CL77 305 and those old Hondas were certainly built. The 360 shown here was a something of a crappy bike, not even close to the 350's that preceded it.
aza hills
aza hills Prieš 12 dienų
Holey like jesus.. 🤣🤣
Omar Farooq
Omar Farooq Prieš 13 dienų
What great fun watching this video! Love the way he narrates.
Rondo2ooo
Rondo2ooo Prieš 13 dienų
Sorry to say that, but as with many (not all of course) things, the 70s and 80s were golden. Lovely vintage Honda! Great.clip!
Frank Deruyck
Frank Deruyck Prieš 14 dienų
As I grew up with a Honda CB 350, I can assure you: nothing ever gave me more pleasure! My almost perfect BMW GS1200 was so perfect that it was BORING. I love the 1970ies HONDA
Talha KOCAER
Talha KOCAER Prieš 14 dienų
honda cb360t being used in villages in Turkey xD
J Harless
J Harless Prieš 14 dienų
This guy is insufferable. Production is just as bad. I watched again with the sound down and it was ok. Also, grandfathers? Dude, you’re like 40. Maybe Dad?
Yura Matyash
Yura Matyash Prieš 14 dienų
5:17 This is something I imagine Jeremy Clarkson saying, Loved it! 😂
Ivan Rodriguez
Ivan Rodriguez Prieš 14 dienų
New bikes are awesome, the technology is amazing, but there's something about old school bikes that you cannot replace, I have a ZRX 1100, a Voyager 1200, but I also have my pride and joy 1979 KZ1000 which I feel is the best out of the three that I own because of its charm and the fact that it's a simple bike no computer no electronics turn the key on press the button and it goes all the time for 41 years it's been doing that and I love it and there's nothing like old School
SAMFICOM
SAMFICOM Prieš 14 dienų
You are the light at the end of the tunnel of moto journalism. thank you.
Agustin Cueva
Agustin Cueva Prieš 15 dienų
Hello FN, have you seen the new CB 350 presented in India, few months ago, and today they introduced a 350rs variant, even more sporty. I think the CEO of big wing Honda in India saw your video a got the idea, you are ahead of time guys. 💪⚡🚀
Covert Garage
Covert Garage Prieš 15 dienų
Right! So you're welcome to my video blog about cars.
QiBoy-777
QiBoy-777 Prieš 15 dienų
Dude. This video is all so vintage, retro, classy, and just bloody wicked awesome! By FAR the best motorcycle video I have EVER seen (which is out of maybe......... 40-50 videos)!! THANK YOU, for being creative, classy, articulate, witty, and just...... cooooool daddy-o!
Covert Garage
Covert Garage Prieš 15 dienų
I agree with you and welcome to my channel about cars
QiBoy-777
QiBoy-777 Prieš 15 dienų
"Terribly ineffective at handling emergency situations....... like politicians." (Awesome) LOL!!!!
QiBoy-777
QiBoy-777 Prieš 15 dienų
"Wholey, and unafraid of water.......... like Jesus." =D LOL!!!!!
Anian W.
Anian W. Prieš 15 dienų
I've made it buy buying my first motorcycle - a brixton Sunray for 3000 € easy
Covert Garage
Covert Garage Prieš 15 dienų
Right! So you're welcome to my video blog about cars.
Samuel Curran
Samuel Curran Prieš 15 dienų
300cc at that time was a bike that you could expect/ supposed to live with. There wasn't the vast array of 100~ or 100hp+ bikes around that there is now. 350cc now is a stepping stone to a bigger bike it's not an end destination and it's never intended as such especially in the west so I don't know if this is really an apt comparison. I don't know if there is really a sub 60hp bike that fills that role or space in the market now in the way this old 300 did. most bikes below that are in the west sold as beginner bikes and will have quality you'd expect from that. Not to say they'll be unreliable. I'm sure they're fine but they're just not made to do the same things. If you're looking at place in the market and bike that most would buy as a bike to use not as a stepping stone surely you have to start looking at at least the CB500s and if not that then the MT-07s.
Maxim P
Maxim P Prieš 15 dienų
I so appreciate his/your ability to think out of the box. The comment about politicians (all of them I hope), and the conclusion about "simple bikes for less, rather than unnecessarily complicated - for same or more". Not many are able to think this way. But hopefully someday this kind of mentality will be common. Peace.
dalton knox
dalton knox Prieš 16 dienų
Contrary to some other commentators, I think the new Honda will last just fine, thanks largely to water cooling, just keep changing the oil. From my own Honda experience, I would expect some electrical problems, but these are usually cheap to fix if you have a multimeter.
Shantanu Singh
Shantanu Singh Prieš 16 dienų
The old bike is quite similar to my RD 350 sold in India in the 80's. It was a case of too much too soon which eventually led to its death by 1990. Spares were an issue and then riders were not familiar with the 2 stroke that needs engine oil as well as transmission oil. Many departments had these bikes like the police but they would empty the engine oil reservoir and keep running effectively killing the engine. The other reason was the mileage, which wasn't much to talk about any way but cb points getting worn and the timing going bad could bring it down to 1/3 of the claimed figures. Are this bikes parts easily available as the indicators and some other things look quite the same.
Axel Bromley
Axel Bromley Prieš 16 dienų
Simply the best motorcycle channel on LTpost
Phoebe Tan
Phoebe Tan Prieš 16 dienų
Meanwhile, pushbikes are going for 10K
alan morley
alan morley Prieš 16 dienų
And that is why retro bikes are the best...good video
luigiseventyseven
luigiseventyseven Prieš 16 dienų
This guy is amazing, congrats, loved the video! I'll take the old timer too :)
B Park
B Park Prieš 17 dienų
you should always put your kayak in a rubber dingy - safety first!
Edward span
Edward span Prieš 17 dienų
Nice royal enfield commercial.
Richky Raymond
Richky Raymond Prieš 17 dienų
I wanna ride my bike so friggin bad! 🥲🥲🥲🥲 But these pandemics shits force me to stay at home! 🥲 Damn!
Zig Rat
Zig Rat Prieš 17 dienų
Lol, even though I'm from the old bike era I kinda prefer the newer one.
Ronald M
Ronald M Prieš 17 dienų
Meanwhile in India, Honda recently released a CB350 H'ness for about $2800. Can we bring that here like F9 suggests?
alphagamma 0822
alphagamma 0822 Prieš 18 dienų
My dad actually had a cbr250rr mc19 lol, wouldve loved to drive that
Givon Wayne Gilliam
Givon Wayne Gilliam Prieš 18 dienų
Great!
martin martin
martin martin Prieš 19 dienų
I would have liked a comparison between an old CB350twin '71 and a new CB350single '' H'ness '' 2021 sold in India right now . The later got only 21hp for almost 400lbs .
All things Tech
All things Tech Prieš 19 dienų
This guy is Erudite.Very good research into the economics and the physics of motorcycles.Great Job kept me glued.God bless you.
Mike Skidmore
Mike Skidmore Prieš 19 dienų
If you have both Motorycles in your Garage which one are you going to ride more?
Mike Skidmore
Mike Skidmore Prieš 19 dienų
If you want old Technology buy a Harley Davidson or a Royal Enfield ..
Mike Skidmore
Mike Skidmore Prieš 19 dienų
Drum Brakes are fine if they are large enough you have better stopping distance on the new bike because you have tires with way softer rubber compound.. With Modern echnology and more manufacturiing Robotos it should help to keep prodcutions costs down .. Too bad we are all slaves to the Global Bankers Inflation ..
dy zolytan
dy zolytan Prieš 20 dienų
Thanks for the comparison...now I definitely want them both!
Arunabh Awasthi
Arunabh Awasthi Prieš 20 dienų
Does he always talk like that?
Saintbow
Saintbow Prieš 20 dienų
Always wanted one of these (Vintage CB360t) but due to family backlash over the purchase of a bike not made stateside and um...I'm 6'3 270lbs and I would look like Shrek on one of these. Any suggestions for something similar but newbie-esque/my size friendly? Also, I think the dual sports are wicked awesome. The go on any adventure would be truly epic. Sadly, Ural's cost a kidney where i'm from...
Drew Bendel
Drew Bendel Prieš 21 dieną
I thought I was losing it at 3:28 I thought that was a hair at first
Gregory LaGrange
Gregory LaGrange Prieš 21 dieną
grandpa didn't have to meet the same noise and exhaust emissions as grandson does. Which might be where that top speed that grandpa enjoys is coming from. Let grandson breathe better, and let him have stinkyer breath, he might have a higher top speed. And that's not to mention any safety rules put in to cap grandson's top speed since that bike is aimed at beginners. Grandpa could ride a bicycle without a helmet. Grandson has momma trying to make rules to ban everything now. But after all that, I have to give a medal to whoever's idea it was to use the old style camera viewfinder with the microprism focus indicator as a frame for the video 🥇
Daniel Paz
Daniel Paz Prieš 21 dieną
A free physics lesson right here.
lone wolf biker 1996
lone wolf biker 1996 Prieš 21 dieną
Older bikes have always been better my xs400 can brake better than a modern 600abs system
Linda
Linda Prieš 22 dienas
Your video's are so informative but entertaining at the same time. Thanks for your efforts!
Razz Rasmussen
Razz Rasmussen Prieš 22 dienas
Enjoyed this video. The same or similar information can be said about most motorcycles out there. I have done the math for Harleys myself to make a point or two for a buddy. Hooah
code3kc
code3kc Prieš 22 dienas
"Holey and unafraid of water, like Jesus" Bro you're killin' me
cyrixblack
cyrixblack Prieš 22 dienas
Regulations are what keep old bikes being remade cheaper in the future, and the average Joe who compares numbers vs actually riding the bikes for his sale.
Patrick Thibaut
Patrick Thibaut Prieš 23 dienas
Beauty is beholden to the age of the eye: you're a poet!
Jönathan 69
Jönathan 69 Prieš 24 dienas
name of the song anyone in 3:33
Luke VanCampen
Luke VanCampen Prieš 24 dienas
BMW 75-2020 review please
TheHoneyBadger
TheHoneyBadger Prieš 24 dienas
I worked at a Honda dealership from 1972 to 1976 and remember when the CB360 came out. Is engine was an absolute piece of crap compared to the almost bulletproof CB350 that it replaced. One of the biggest mistakes Honda ever made.
Jay Garrick
Jay Garrick Prieš 25 dienų
Which one will get you laid (hint: it’s the 1975)
Sori amidi
Sori amidi Prieš 25 dienų
You and your team must be on tv show anout motorcycles. The quality is insane
baker2niner
baker2niner Prieš 25 dienų
CB360 is cheaper in today's $ than today's bike because the volume sold was astronomical! Half the bikes on the road in the '70s -- like VW beetles -- were CB350/360s. Willowy frames/swingarms/forks, shocks with no damping, and cold plastic tires. I still have a head-to-shoulder twitch when thinking about mid-70s Japanese bikes back then. All I can say is, "I survived!"
Between two Bikes
Between two Bikes Prieš 26 dienų
Your stuff is so killer Ryan!
khr1960 robinson
khr1960 robinson Prieš 26 dienų
|Over here in the UK the 360T was called the 360 G5
thomas
thomas Prieš 26 dienų
I remember taking my Honda hawk to it final home last ride way out country. Rain a down pour . And I came to a stop light from 45 . I got for brake but got nothing it was a T that came out of housing and they was a big building that block the view and I was still going 40s the timing was I cross it 4-10 secound after they had a green. I had a plan if a car or truck came put I would try to go around it or lay it down. Man the second took forever. But my luck was cool that day no car came out of that busy blink spot place. I blew pass a red light. LOL
StellariumSound
StellariumSound Prieš 26 dienų
Motorcycle disks like Jesus. Got it.
allan thomas
allan thomas Prieš 26 dienų
I think i would take the old one. Yeah it doesn't do a lot of things as well but it has style and it will still commute just fine.
stephen publicover
stephen publicover Prieš 26 dienų
hey, the honda 360-t had ing points,red line was 10500 rpm ,push it and point float!tough bike thow, let,s see the 300 last as long!
Jaggerdfletcher 161
Jaggerdfletcher 161 Prieš 27 dienų
I cant work out which one is more boring
Never a Dull Moment
Never a Dull Moment Prieš 28 dienų
I studied econ and I love this angle. I have always bought my bikes used because they are SO much cheaper, and I don't care enough about newer features to get anything all too modern. Unfortunately that means that despite all my love for Honda, they haven't seen a dime of my money. I'd love a good cheap bike that's just new, but not cutting edge advanced.
Truer words have never been spoken, My Princess!
Truer words have never been spoken, My Princess! Prieš 28 dienų
The old model looks much better to me, the look of modern motorcycles in general don't do anything for me. I think bikes up to 2010 look good, after that started looking weird and ugly
Jayden Whitcomb
Jayden Whitcomb Prieš 29 dienų
I can’t wait to get/ try out a CB360T
Adam Oloufa
Adam Oloufa Prieš 29 dienų
My 2006 SV1000 is completely spotless. My dads 2019 SV650X has rust spots on the headlight surroundings
Kirk Johnson
Kirk Johnson Prieš mėn
There is another factor that applies to these two bikes and most other bikes. All things being equal, if you buy these two bikes right now and ride them for ten years, at the end of the ten years the old bike will be worth the same- or more, and the new bike will have lost substantial value.
Kirk Johnson
Kirk Johnson Prieš mėn
This is a great video. There are few riders who need the peaks of performance. There are lots of riders who would buy a brand new bike if it was cheaper and only met the old standards of performance.
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